How Do I Stop My Players From Ruining My Plans?

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I most often choose the third method as well. I deal with smaller parties, tho. generally the recommended 4 man party. By tossing dangerous encounters and circumstances at them at lower levels, the group quickly realizes that I don't give a hoot whether they can actually overcome the encounter or not.
The paranoia of potential death keeps the group together. even tho a number of potential plot lines are currently brewing, the players know three things;
1. the dm has unlimited resources to construct enemies, while the players must earn it.
2. players can only focus on one threat at a time
3. it is possible to lead one evil into the path of another.

the party spends most of the time evaluating the strengths and goals of enemies, and attempting to see how they can maximize havoc for the evil doers and minimize their own personal risk. Its a great challenge to both sides of the table to keep each other moving.

here are some other truths I have found;
1. a group of players will always outsmart a single narator. the only equalizer is naration. by holding all the cards, the dm can create anything he pleases.
2. players have to earn what they have. without the power to narrate, the players are forced to handle the situation with what has been given to them by the dm.
3. If the party ignores a plot line, it doesn't die; it just becomes higher level when the group brushes against it next time. I love the adjusting levels that published scenarios are providing now; they provide easier methods of seeming how a particular situation can become more poweful if ignored by meddling do gooders.
there is technically no time restraints or "deadlines" involved with evil plots unless the pc's are actively engaging them. if the two head orc tribe is going o smash a town next week, why bother unless it affects the next few episodes of game? tghey can always smash it later, but in ten levels, its the 5 head troll tribe smashing a small city instead. bigger threat, same plot. only now it is in the players' sights.
4. if a thread is ignored, and is important to have the players stop it to not screw up later stuff; have someone else do it instead. the pc's are not the only heros out there; by having someone else stop the two headed orcs tribe, they now hear about other adventureres out there making a difference. maybe the group would like to hear folk recount the pc's activities during city gossip too.
5. instead of freaking out over the party "solving" the plot and kicking the shit out of the enemy; why not just reward them all the xp they would have gotten if they did it the way you wanted? if the goal was save the king from the bandits, and instead of fighting their way thru all the bandits, they hired them to go kill the two headed orc tribe; why not reward them for both saving the king and defeating the orcs? they actually helped by speeding the plot along. they deserve xp-- and I'm sure the king would be willing to foot the bill for hiring the bandits-- who knows, maybe they can become lords over that region!
6. I don't promise the pc's can actually survive any encounter. they often have realized that something is just too big for them. if it is something worth dying for, they will tough it out and maybe survive. if it's not, they high tail it. that is the kind of decision making I thknk makes gaming most fun. having to know when to risk it all or not.anyway, enough rambling. I would have enjoyed the discussion.

I too try to create a world that does not revolve around the players. My villains have their plans and these will take place if the players don't get in the way. I will often have an npc party or two operating in the area too. This means that I can dangle several plot hooks at the PCs but if they don't bite the world needn't come to a premature end because another group will do so (the NPCs). This also provides legends and tales to hear about around the campfire and often a group of antagonists that might not be evil - merely the competition.

This is easier to do with your own group for an experienced DM. The trick comes - and I haven't figured this one out yet - is in writing an adventure for a third party and trying to cover all the bases or present such a diversity of opportunity within a single adventure.

Any thoughts on that one?

Cheers
Llowellen

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